Hocus Pocus - The Podcast
HP and Company presents; “Hocus Pocus - The Podcast” A High-Vibration, Shade-illumination, authentic conversation amongst friends.
Hocus Pocus - The Podcast
Trollercoasters, Catfish Cults and Digital Disturbia 1/2
What if the darkest corners of the internet found their way into your personal and professional life? Join us as we uncover the wild and chaotic journey of a small YouTube creator who faced a relentless onslaught of online trolling and deception. Sacrificing 12 years of content to emerging stronger and find joy offline, this episode is a testament to resilience and the power of authentic connections.
Next, we unravel the enigmatic and controversial happenings surrounding Lima Jevremovic and her business Aura. Hear how a seemingly straightforward investigation into Amanda Rabb and Bam Margera spiraled into a deeper dive into Hollywood’s hidden shadows.
Finally, navigate the intricate dynamics of managing an online community amidst rampant deception. Discover the manipulation tactics of a deceptive persona, the chaos of running a Discord server invaded by trolls, and the complex task of maintaining order and integrity. This episode highlights the importance of vigilance and trust, emphasizing the strength found in genuine collaboration and the ongoing efforts to protect and uphold a supportive online space for all.
of all the stories I felt compelled to share, this one has been by far the craziest. It's a bamboozling bubble bursting debacle of swindlers, spin doctors and silencing, and thus it's taken me a hot minute to put it together, both in my brain and on this somewhat insane timeline.
Speaker 3:Long story short Trolls True story I caught trolls.
Speaker 2:Basically from a much larger creator who ignored every attempt I and others made to save her from them. In the meantime, between time, I got swindled by the shadiest creep I've ever encountered, silenced by an addict with a webcam who, to this day, spits my name live on the daily, spreading poison, defamation and delusion to an audience of burner accounts, as though being incentivised to do so. I've sacrificed my own voice and removed 12 years of my content from YouTube, combating my own addiction in the process, deleted Instagram and being gifted with joy and peace and way more time to spend in my garden as a direct result Cheers, trolls and I've made lifelong friends, authentic connections with like-spirited people without whom, straight up, I doubt I would have coped. This is some next-level hocus-pocus.
Speaker 4:The truth is like a lion Unleash him and he will look after himself. Here we go again.
Speaker 2:Longtime, no see. Unleash him and he will look after himself. Here we go again Now. We're going home Long time, no see. I feel like I should put maybe a big disclaimer out there. You may require a little bit of equipment for this journey that we're about to take. Maybe some goggles and one of those snorkelling thingies, boy oh boy do I have the cautionary tale to share with you, content creators and social media users alike this shit does not discriminate, Maybe an oxygen tank as well.
Speaker 3:that would be really useful.
Speaker 5:Alrighty well hello everybody.
Speaker 2:I guess it's for me to set the record straight how do I do this, because there's so much I want to say. There's a lot of wibbly wobbly records out there. Do you know what I mean? These records are getting warped beyond all recognition.
Speaker 5:Welcome to our talk. We're going to have an open discussion about the insane troll posse.
Speaker 2:In July 2023, my small YouTube channel was targeted by a trolling operation.
Speaker 4:The best thing to do is to not engage with them. Don't give them the oxygen of publicity, and eventually they sort of shrivel up and die.
Speaker 5:For months now, we have kept quiet in the belief these perpetrators would finally shut up and go away.
Speaker 2:And who am I? An unknown artist on this platform since 2012, who just so happened to be a well-placed, surprised witness to what I now know to be the evolution of mass manipulation.
Speaker 5:I told you it was going to be deep, I feel the need to talk about the issue of trolling online, as I believe it to be way more serious and worthy of investigating.
Speaker 2:We've witnessed levels of. Again, I'm going to use the word hysteria and I don't use it lightly, I really don't. In this video, I'm going to try to explain why and who and how and when and what the fuck.
Speaker 5:Most of what I'm going to say will sound unbelievable, like you couldn't make it up, but unfortunately it all happened make it up, but unfortunately it all happened.
Speaker 6:Be careful, these people are watching your videos too. The catfish, once a humble bottom feeder, found a new habitat in the vast expanse of the internet. As online communities began to flourish, so too did the catfish.
Speaker 2:Catfish. The catfish has become a symbol of deception and intrigue. Multiple entities with multiple aliases.
Speaker 6:The story of the catfish extends far beyond the realms of reality television.
Speaker 2:Had wormed their way into my online world, multiplied and spread like a bad rash. No one wants nor needs, wants nor needs. And I caught these entities like a sneeze on a breeze when a larger creator shouted me out, and just like that, my channel was simultaneously bolstered.
Speaker 8:You've just found like the tip of the iceberg, and doomed.
Speaker 2:But before I tell you about the changes to my channel, I thought it was about time I told you a little bit more about me. Okay, so the basics. Well, my name is Stephanie, but most people just call me Steph. What brought me to YouTube? I hear you ask. For the past 12 years, it has been my preferred outlet for creative expression and a place to practice my craft. I'm really hugely sentimental, to start it, so I like to document everything. I don't like to ever forget stuff. But before I tell you why I wiped all my content, I want to say, in the interest of honesty, that once upon a time I really wanted to be a bona fide paid YouTuber, and right now I almost wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy If I kept enemies, which I don't. Anyway, without further ado, I guess I should just jump straight in and give you the facts so that you know what you're dealing with here.
Speaker 2:Even though I've been here a little while and can speak youtube culture with the best of them, I am not your average youtuber, in that I never really fed the algorithms properly. I can't be inclined to commit to schedules. I don't ride on bandwagons, don't vibe with trends, might retreat incognito for weeks or months on end. Hence nobody was watching, a fact I cannot claim to have been happy about. Not once. I was producing work I really wanted to share. Mostly I would despair that there was no one there, and then it taught me not to care, so I didn't hold back.
Speaker 3:I do my soul searching on screen, look into lens, if only to feel seen as these scenes roll on.
Speaker 2:I came back to my YouTube channel whenever my heart suggested it. This is expression.
Speaker 3:This is me opposing depression. Creativity sets me free, liberty sets me free, sharing these lessons, my liberty. But let's be real. My real, I feel most accurately, is that this is my therapy Directing my own scenes, projecting my own dreams, performing poetry within me, soul-searching on screen.
Speaker 2:And by the time the word quarantine hit the mainstream, I was poised to process much of it on YouTube through my camera lens.
Speaker 2:I've never seen anything like this before, like I just haven't not here, not in this lifetime, not on planet earth, and I wanted to reach out to my fellow human beings in a way that isn't through text, because I don't know, I don't think it's going to be enough, you know. So I feel like I'd touch you if I could, but obviously, under the circumstances, it's made its way all the way from china to hollywood, no less, tom hanks, no less, and now prince charles. Apparently, I'm not really worried about this. I'm more concerned with what the bigwigs are doing, what's going on behind the scenes, what's happening with government, what's happening with control on our rights. Those things are the things that I've been thinking about, more so than the actual virus itself. And this, ladies and gentlemen, would mark the point in my YouTube journey where I would start using my platform and my voice to highlight what I commonly refer to as hocus pocus.
Speaker 2:I made videos on bullshit, beauty standards, the incarceration of Britney Spears, systematic brutality, experimental contraception, travis Scott's sacrificial ritual, triangular food item combined with usually squeaky garden opening you with me? Yeah that I looked at old Hollywood and new Hollywood, the pharmaceutical industry, secret societies, subliminal messages, lady Diana, spencer, haas and Megs, astrology and the rising of consciousness. What I didn't know is that I could have caught trolls in any one of those videos. For me, it felt like a case of divine intervention that I had made this declaration just before the universe decided to test me To solemnly committedly, admittedly scare the shit out of me, release myself from robot clutches, determined to quash multi-D, set myself free In July 2023,. I had a nightmare.
Speaker 1:I know I was sick.
Speaker 2:No, literally I was really sick last night. Heebie-jeebies yeah, I know the works. Thanks for helping looking after me Well you're gonna die. Aww, a common occurrence, I find, when curiosity leads me into the darkest spaces. It's such an intricate, complicated case with so many different facets and such a lot of bullshit there's no way you guys could hear me, because I didn't do anything wrong and she's talking to me in a chair.
Speaker 2:She's not right. Bad energy had seemingly seeped into my psyche and, as I always do when expelling such dark energy, I threw up. Let's celebrate the fact that we're both alive. Okay, you were so helpful last night, so, rather fittingly, this is where my story begins. Head is banging a little bit, but nonetheless, we're going to bang on, we're going to crack on. We're going to talk about Dahlia Takali and the police body camera footage that BJ of that Surprise Witness has shared with us. This video really is primarily for those who are following this case already. So shooketh was I by this case.
Speaker 3:She's supposed to be in jail.
Speaker 2:It's such an intricate, complicated case that, over the course of the next five months, I would go on to make no less than 62 videos covering the topic. It's hard for me to catch you up on, even though I have attempted it several times. I'm also going to remove last night's makeup. Indeed, I had first brought it to my channel six months prior. There was a woman called Amanda Rabb, and Amanda Rabb lived on Skid Row, which is basically where they put all the homeless people. She kept getting interviewed by this guy.
Speaker 6:My name is Mark Leda and I produce the videos that you see on my channel, soft White Unsleep.
Speaker 2:Today we're going to talk about this case here between BJ Corville of that Surprise Witness TV and Lima Derevam. If you are unfamiliar with this case either of these characters but you care about humans and you care Ravum. If you are unfamiliar with this case, either of these characters, but you care about humans and you care about the truth, I highly suggest I would urge you head to BJ Investigates on YouTube or that Surprise Witness, watch her series on virtual reality. Hell, there's a lot of information out there. I'm going to share some of my opinions on what I see that I strongly suspect involve some extremely dark energies. About five minutes before I turned on the camera, I found some documents. I was looking for photographs because I'm putting together a visual how people are related infographic type thing. Buckle up, because this might get confusing. So I went to Lima's website, aura's website, the business that she runs. To me it looks like a facade, like everything else in Hollywood. It's just like cardboard.
Speaker 7:Looks like a regular old neighborhood, doesn't it? Well, it's not, it's all thick.
Speaker 2:Behind the doors, nothing there. I'm speculating and adding my own opinion and everything is alleged. You can Google it. It's on meetoraio and it says Long story short.
Speaker 9:Lima is suing me. The Lima Amanda, raab Bam, margera, dahlia and Dia saga has escalated.
Speaker 2:I believe that this is probably a facade for something much larger, much more powerful and much more sinister than any of us would like to actually believe.
Speaker 5:Trying their hardest to trick transport trap for their own gain.
Speaker 2:This is called when you connect the dots and you take a step back. Their tricks are very clever. And you take a step back, the tricks are very clever. You look at the painting tapestry in full detail and you see who's connected to who's connected to what's connected to what. It starts to spell itself out for you and that, to me, is the true investigation. You can Google it. I feel like two hours of traumatising footage is probably enough for me at the moment. As I said, I was quite sick last night, literally. I think we have to be really careful about how we guard ourselves spiritually when we're dealing with this kind of entities, with these kind of topics. Little did I know.
Speaker 5:All the sage under the sun couldn't have prepared my spirit for what was about to come let me take you back to july 2023 and if you're here, you're probably aware of a content creator named that surprise witness and at that time I did not miss an upload. I I was a big fan and I was fully invested in the story of justice for Amanda Rapp, virtual reality hell and, of course, lima from Aura. So I'm just feeling the vibe and this. We're in an open air prison thing.
Speaker 9:She makes the following call out Everyone needs to make videos, everyone needs to make posts, everyone needs to make public records requests, because not only do we have one unexplained death that has happened in Lima's care, we also now have allegations of sex trafficking of people that Lima has purported to be in care of, and Bam Margera told me himself he was held against his will for months.
Speaker 5:She had done a few deep dives into this scenario and I was really into the story. So now I'm getting a whole bunch of videos on this subject because that's how the algorithm works. So a guy called Patrick CC Heehan made a few episodes.
Speaker 7:Trust me, you're going to need some water for this one. Unfortunately for Amanda Rabb, she didn't have a choice. Her choice was taken away from her by Lima Yovremovic.
Speaker 5:And woven into the story was a celebrity called Bam Margera.
Speaker 7:For the past two years Bam has been in and out of rehabilitation centers that he was seemingly forced into going At first. Everyone thought he was admitted for his own good. Not anymore. New information has been unveiled that Bam has been put in a legal guardianship.
Speaker 5:And then there's a whole bunch of reaction videos to his video. What?
Speaker 10:the f*** so.
Speaker 5:I have now been watching people talk about this story for months, and it's around this time another video pops up which leads me to get more involved in this story than I could ever have imagined.
Speaker 2:Lima from Aura is suing BJ ever have imagined Lima from Aura is suing BJ, and it struck me as a really odd thing to do when you seem to have quite a lot, or quite a few skeletons in the closet, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:And for the first time I came across another Brit who knew about this story and I was intrigued to find out more about her. So I watched some more of her videos, which I really enjoyed. So I sent her an email saying you know, I really like your content. I'm interested in this Lima story. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:I would have covered this case, no matter which creator had brought it into my awareness. It had already got under my skin. Still, the fact that I had great admiration and respect for this creator's work and liked her personality, combined with the fact that we'd been parasocial pals for a while and I never missed an upload, meant I was quite stunned to see my Mish Mash channel on her platform. Yes, let's talk about this Stunned and delighted because suddenly I had an audience.
Speaker 9:All right, so this is another channel. Hi, priestess, steph, it's me.
Speaker 2:Priestess Steph at your service, well, kind of at my own service at this point.
Speaker 9:She has been around, for I think she was here for Free Britney. She's definitely been around here for a lot of the Free Bam stuff and she's actually started to make content. Oh my gosh, look at all of that.
Speaker 2:I'm so delighted to finally have people to talk about that stuff with I.
Speaker 9:Honestly I get emotional, you and me both.
Speaker 2:I get kind of choked up. Going back to this moment, for me it marks the death of a long-term dream I'd harbored. For over a decade I had been stuck in a toxic relationship, flitting back and forth between my love for a craft I'd honed every day till the cows came home and loved since childhood, and my loathing for a platform that had seemingly cancelled me when I'd barely begun. Over the years I've used this platform to express so many different facets. There are certain things, there are certain topics that really drive me. I'm one of those humans really driven. Freedom, let's go. That's all I care about really is freedom and everything that that encompasses for the human in this human, sacred, spiritual, magical experience that we're experiencing together.
Speaker 9:She has a cute setup, she has a nice camera. It's like very personable, it's like you're just like with your friend in the living room. Beautiful wallpaper, I love it. This video obviously just finished this one. She premiered this one today. Look at all these twos. Two, two, two, two, two is my favorite number, but I really like like when a lot of twos are together. Look at these videos. They're just so good Go check them out.
Speaker 2:I quickly set about uploading pre-created video assets to share with the community, in anticipation of creators following the cue to cover the story, everyone needs to make videos, everyone needs to make posts.
Speaker 2:Began making the most of the Premiere feature to talk in real time with my newfound friends. To talk in real time with my newfound friends. My awareness game was strong, research ready and I was well away. I used to love a good dot-to-dot as a child and I feel like that's what we're doing and now the dots are getting like closer together. I know I can't be the only one that's feeling this like whoosh of momentum, not to keep repeating myself, but again I'm really sensing momentum gathering, the build-up, the speed. It's quite something. One thing that I didn't mention oh, there's so many things to say, so many things to say. One thing that I didn't mention the other day is the feeling of, like the sense of urgency that I felt personally upon learning through BJ's Instagram that what are they called?
Speaker 2:come on, brain hot snakes media hot snakes media I think this is the name of the company, a production company who did that really OTT kind of documentary, the Story of Natalia Grace, something like that. They did a lot of like creepy kind of interviews with this guy. I can imagine they'll have a field day with Lima. They're going to be covering this topic, doing a docu-series where they're going to speak with Lima herself. Oh my God. So you know it's going to be biased, as, as beyond all, it's going to be biased, isn't it so?
Speaker 2:Anyway, for me there was a real sense of urgency upon learning that information, because I was just like great, great, like this is what happened with Britney. This is what happened with Britney Spe. This is what happened with Britney Spears. Basically, the mainstream media will get their hands on it and they will skew it so much and they might cause a divide. They might cause a bit of a kerfuffle among the hens in the hen house and have people like, hmm, is she this? Is she that? You know? People love that, don't they? This is what they did with us with the whole. What's his face? Pirates of the Caribbean guy and his partner or ex-partner or whatever.
Speaker 2:It was like to cause a great big split and divide, so we'd all be like one side or the other. These guys are actors. I think that we'd need to remember. These guys are actors. What can I say? I'm swayed by instinct. And then one fateful day, oilier than the rest, I let them sway me into the test of a lifetime. About to sacrifice my best lifeline, armed with divine, I fell down dodgy pipeline into cesspool. Now let's watch a replay of what some might say was my downfall. It wasn't, for I found the bestest friends of all, but it's all part of the process nonetheless. Some of us have some really great research, but when we bring it all to the table and we spread it all out, we get a bird's eye view and I'm just sitting here thinking like Don't say it. I feel like we need some sort of Whatever it is that BJ and her team are doing like.
Speaker 9:The archiving of the footage of the documentation, obtaining information, obtaining body cam footage, liaising with people making videos, all of that stuff.
Speaker 2:I really feel like we would benefit from some kind of file sharing, community-based, forum-based something platform or something. There she goes. I wish it could be me that could set it up, but, to be honest with you, I actually just don't think I really have the time. If I want to continue keeping conversation going, I feel like a process of delegation is required in order to share the load of the workload. There's bound to be a lot of things that aren't actual leads at all. Ha ha ha, ha, ha ha ha. Yeah, just my personal thought that we should have some sort of place where we can share the content that we found, ideas or leads. I'm probably not the person to bring the research to itself. I'm just not going to be able like there's just too much, there's just too much. I'm just I'm a one woman fan. Yeah, if someone else could set up a community of sorts in a safe place. I'm doing my best to keep up with everything and also exist in my actual real life. Yeah, I mean, every army's gotta have strategy.
Speaker 11:Every army's gotta have strategy.
Speaker 2:So, I don't know, just my thoughts. What do you think? Should we get a little more organised? Can we get a little bit more organised? Can we help each other Again? If you want to share any of the assets, I've put them in this. What's it called? Ko-fi, ki-fi, ko-fi? It's linked below.
Speaker 5:And so she sends me a link to her discord server the infamous discord server.
Speaker 2:Maybe there are one or two nefarious, suspicious characters lurking. I wouldn't be surprised. I have chosen to release any embarrassment or shame I had felt initially regarding the naivety I had in the beginning. After all, ignorance is a natural state for all humans. Until we learn and you don't know what you don't know, you know. I gave myself a hard time for blindsight. Once hindsight was crystal clear, I would go out on a limb and say that the majority of people that discover these cases, these happenings, become almost instantly emotionally invested.
Speaker 10:And I was so overjoyed to find a like-minded creator, someone else who was on this wavelength. And when you're investigating something, anything alongside others, you need some sort of way to communicate, to exchange information and to easily keep track of your research. And, truthfully, I thought for a long time this community needs a Discord server. It's practically begging for it.
Speaker 5:And you can use it for FaceTiming, calling voice notes or texts.
Speaker 11:That's what the little microphone on the side is for.
Speaker 10:And, as it turned out right at that same time, when I first emailed stuff in August 2023, looking for any way in which I could help with research, I asked if there was a Discord server, and there was.
Speaker 5:You know, the internet is a weird and wacky place. Some call it the Wild West.
Speaker 2:It started when a snake slithered into my Instagram DMs. Yeah, it did it. Demon disguised as friend Its mission to drive me round the bend and shaft me sideways.
Speaker 11:No, I'm here. Whenever you need me to be here, just click away.
Speaker 2:And there are a plethora of ways. This snake tried to tie my pathways, but we'll get to it. Okay, I think I'm doing it, we're doing it. Yeah, this is. This is amazing.
Speaker 11:Uh, thank you so much you can send the link to who you want to and if you have a moderator, you can give them the uh, I guess the opportunity, the opportunity. I very much value people's privacy. I very much value people's privacy, but just know that this is extremely private, extremely private. And you can send the link to who you want to. If you have a moderator you have a moderator you can give them the uh uh uh, moderator. Uh, I guess the opportunity. I very much value people's privacy Extremely private.
Speaker 2:The private coolest. Get no love from me.
Speaker 11:I never feel obligated. I don't like that at all when people are pushy. I don't like that at all when people are pushy. No, absolutely. I was more or less talking about the privacy of others, but as far as I go, no, yeah, I would love to be known, be known, love to be known as insert, whatever it is that you feel I'm honored actually they're closing in, maybe let the games begin mind-boggling.
Speaker 3:maybe their minds aren't their own. Just saying Could be head shitless, but no, no Cause, wow, just wow, we escaped a cold. No, no, no, no, it might never hold, but we're grateful.
Speaker 2:We're just holding up mirrors for one another, reflecting things back to one another Yo yo yo.
Speaker 3:They wanna know who's that troll. Yo yo yo come on, come on.
Speaker 2:In order to establish some form of connection with me, this first catfish slash troll practiced the art of mirroring.
Speaker 11:I don't know, you just feel the vibes and you're like yes.
Speaker 2:Basically taking any information they could find about me and incorporating it into their faux personality.
Speaker 2:Making it seem like we just had so much in common so that I would feel some sort of bond with this person. They were empathic, they were spiritual. You get the drill. They were empathic, they were spiritual, you get the drill. I sometimes feel a little bit uncomfortable with using the word spiritual whenever I talk about my life, my journey, my awakening, my sense of evolution, my experience of the global ascension. In many ways I was an ideal candidate to be prey for a potential professional social media con artist. My channel was very small, had some potential, if I do say so myself, but in many ways I was absolutely the wrong target.
Speaker 2:A lot of people think that the word spiritual means I'm a pushover. I've never been more non-pushover-ish. You know. I've been practising using the word no and everything. You know I no longer have this disease to please people. Oh, I say no longer. I mean it kind of lingers, doesn't it? It's a practice, it's a practice thing. Every day I practice these things. It's your duty, you know, to take care of you. First, look after you, check. You Fill up your own cup Whilst the snake busied itself getting its fingers in all my pies convincing me.
Speaker 2:An audience of ten which, let's face it, were mostly their friends would demand a moderator to keep them in check With her power. She was probably right and insisting I start accepting donations from the hordes of new fans I was getting. I was also getting intellectual stimulation elsewhere, thank God, of course, the snake wasn't the only one in my inbox. There were many, a handful of real ones too. In the first week of being gifted a Discord server and putting a shout out on my channel, I spoke for hours with three fellow at-home investigators whom genuinely caught my vibe, and exchanged emails and links with many others.
Speaker 2:I didn't want to be in charge per se. I wanted to lend my skills to a cause I cared about. But I was too embarrassed to reiterate this to my new friend, who had upped the levels on the love-bombing stakes and was now demanding my attention several times a day. So since I found myself at the digital helm, so to speak, I set about making the server a digital community I myself would want to be a part of, whilst also accommodating for the tons and tons of research that was being gathered on the daily, originally called that Surprise Army. We'll get to it. I renamed the space the Goddesses Rising after my collection of self-development poems titled the Same Thing and under the impression that I was the only one with the ability to invite others, I opened the digital doors to viewers of my videos and they could reach me by email so that I could send them an invitation.
Speaker 5:Link to the discord so anyone joining the server had to be given the link by Steph. But come to find out that was not the case. But we'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 2:I think this is a really cool way of getting to share stuff with friends and family and you know everybody in the world.
Speaker 11:Everybody in the world, everybody in the world.
Speaker 10:This now infamous server had only existed for two months until the least bit of drama caused an implosion revealing there were plants from the get Users placed in the server covertly to gather intel, monitor our activities and influence and disrupt discussions without revealing their true intentions.
Speaker 2:Let's just get one thing straight Anyone can catch trolls, anyone can be thrown under the cyber bus, and here in the DigiRealms, anyone can be anyone, and if you've ever engaged with two strangers on the internet, the chances are you've engaged with at least one troll. This place is fucking riddled with them, and woe betide anyone who thinks trolls only thrive on Reddit or any other specific platform, for there are, in fact, fact swarms of them in all your favourite places and on your doorstep. If you share anything here worth sharing and this isn't just bullying on the internet, though, that would be appalling enough. This is the pushing of poison, the indoctrination of minds and the subsequent skewing of the truth. If nothing else, the takeaway should be focused on the sheer scale of deliberate disrupting, deluding the masses. These are world-altering times. These are world-altering times, and whilst the blind awaken in droves, production shows, much like politicians have slaves of scum keeping the dumb dumb.
Speaker 2:At times, it appears no one cares for the truth. For way too long I have been sitting on a fuck ton of proof that could supposedly help a creator who continues to be sued, and I don't mean to be rude, but I myself donated to the legal fund Patreon merch, and presumed the truth, which is starting to hurt, was the goal. Now, on the whole, I can't tell who's who, bar a few friends of new, who each have suffered in spite of only ever being incited by light. And we were invited to do what was right and investigate lima by lima.
Speaker 2:What we have witnessed has been more than a scheme to deceive. What we've uncovered beggars belief and it's a relief to get it out, even if no other investigators are about to pick it up before Netflix or Amazon, what they called brain hot snakes, media speaking of rainforests where, let's be honest, most can't see the wood from the trees. If you please, I shall proceed to share with you the bizarre activities that would take place between August and October 2023. And because it's still bamboozling to me, I'll try to find some kind of harmony. Find some kind of harmony Me, me, me. At first it was exciting, delighting and uniting in our plight, and we were all kept busy, busy, busy busy.
Speaker 2:Buzzing phones were pinging day and night.
Speaker 3:No, rest for the wicked. That sounds about right. The trolls gave me money. I'm not being funny. I thought I could pay for this app, but basically honey.
Speaker 2:The donated money Would turn out to be part of the trap we hosted panel discussions Discussing some topics In hindsight that knowing it was 90 cat fish turned out to be ironic, like the time. So fly, talk to the trolls about the danger of trolls, danger of trolls, and they pretended to be normal Until holes Huh.
Speaker 3:Appeared in their stories Such bullshit. And this would be so boring. Except, it happens every day, hey, even if you choose to hide away, nope, oh, this shit happens every day.
Speaker 2:One of the first projects that we did as a community was a video that gave me goosebumps to produce. It was a collection of different voices from all across the world who were all focused on this particular case that we had united on. We really wanted to get to the bottom of it. We really wanted to get some truth. We also understood that, in some way or another, cases like this affect every single one of us.
Speaker 3:Rage baiting is a technique practiced by trolls to cause a stir, and if you're like me, naivety, it's not something you've heard before.
Speaker 2:It's not something you've heard before, do you?
Speaker 3:know what doxing is? Our trolls didn't. They doxed themselves and raised pure hell To make sure that we all listened. Did anyone hear that Wish? We couldn't.
Speaker 2:They started to get controversial inappropriate and damn right rude To goad a reaction from you, cause there's something that all trolls do.
Speaker 1:Who's got the time? Who's got the time?
Speaker 3:Who can keep their mind? Who could even be asked?
Speaker 2:So we have this one troll with her fingers in all the pies, sliding into everybody's DMs and working the crowd, and we have this other one with her mouth wide open, and it suddenly dawned on me that, yes, we did indeed need some kind of hierarchy. Hierarchy was out of control, because some people demonstrably don't know how to act. If you knew?
Speaker 5:couldn't you have warned us?
Speaker 2:Are you kidding me? There were seven moderators. Guess how many of them were haters, alligators.
Speaker 3:Three, including the one who first gifted the disco to me.
Speaker 2:And her two pals don't know how, and I despair. Luckily, instinctively, I had selected four real ones to act as moderators True human beings, intelligent, compassionate investigators Sorry, sorry, hallelujah One of whom specifically seemed to instantly get the first trolls back up. Ooh, is somebody threatened? And if I was to hazard a guess, I would say that they may have been more than a little bit threatened by her presence and the fact that I'd chosen her to be one of our moderators. In hindsight, not to blow my own trumpet, I chose wisely. On the day that we met, like typical Brits, we headed to the pub. When she suggested that we take a selfie, I already felt a little bit uneasy. She's not going to like it. She's going to feel funny about it, as if I was in some sort of relationship with this person, because I knew that my oversensitive faux wing woman Could you make up some kind of funny story about that picture.
Speaker 2:You know the original troll who made up the discord already.
Speaker 5:We were saying that the other night because we went back to the same pub had some kind of vendetta against her.
Speaker 11:She told me not to trust you.
Speaker 5:Yeah, she look. I knew it. I knew she would be saying stuff about me. Because she was saying stuff to me about other people and anyone that does that. You know they're talking shit 100%.
Speaker 2:I knew the troll on the whole, didn't rate her, and I knew that because not to give the trolls tips, but they may have underestimated me a little bit, because I was keeping an eye on the back end of the server and I could see something really peculiar. The first person that I'd made a moderator, who didn't even really want the role in the first place though I'm so grateful that she took it on was suddenly gone from the list of moderators. Indeed, her name had been put into a category unto itself and I don't know if it just thought that I wouldn't be able to tell, and I don't know if it just thought that I wouldn't be able to tell, but I knew that we had this problem even before the instigation of ostracisation against just one of the moderators, I'll let you guess which one.
Speaker 5:No, the other thing that pissed her off was because I said can you stop tagging me in your horrendous Instagram reels that mean nothing?
Speaker 2:In your confusing spam. Tag me in your confusing spam.
Speaker 5:I actually didn't want any association with this topic with my Instagram, because it's so irrelevant. She took exception when I was very polite, super polite.
Speaker 8:She never spoke to me again, but you know, that's just it.
Speaker 1:You went against the rules.
Speaker 8:She literally never spoke to me again after that Because you told her no Like. Just imagine if you would have been a Yesland doer. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Oh, I should have said that in my head, I have divided this absurdity into thirds. For me, august was sleep, september was creep and October was leap. And although, as you can tell, trolls sleep like hell due to a magic spell, they appear to be on Love bombing, ostracising, rage baiting fantasising went relatively undetected in round one.
Speaker 5:So we're in this server and there is a lot of activity going on. People have been making timelines and doing investigation and posting content and for a while it was all good. And let's not forget that at this time BJ was involved in a court case. Well, she still is. She was not able to speak about that order story, so we felt like we were giving her support, um, and keeping the story out there so more people would know about it. That was our intention.
Speaker 2:With one eye behind the scenes and the other, unfortunately, behind a rose-tinted lens. I was thinking my newfound friends had some um vulnerabilities.
Speaker 11:Pointing out all this negative shit to me, and she changed her name.
Speaker 2:We'd talked every single day for three months straight. Many a night I had stayed up beyond late carrying the weight of a plate of dung. Trauma dumping had begun and I was already being hung out to dry. Alas, gods and guides, love a human who tries. And even I was surprised at how much work I produced, even with friction. Breathing on my neck like a noose, I would introduce a new video as fast as my editing fingers could go, and I was so excited to grow and so appreciative, thinking this was my time To finally align with what my heart felt was right. My rose-tinted lenses made things a bit brighter than they were. We can now concur.
Speaker 2:The troll who doxxed itself and then caused quite the kerfuffle, feelings of fear caused feathers to ruffle. The first sign of trouble foxy amongst hens had set cat amongst pigeons, and even my friends, the real ones, were feeling troubled, rightfully so. When I came to notice more things amiss in the back end of the server, people who I'd never sent the link to starting to emerge misunderstanding, the troll urged me to believe so. When I implemented a verified membership plan, the troll seemed a bit bereaved and, despite being firmly glued to my butt, chose this moment to let me breathe and believe I did the best I could have off the job of rounding up a now semi-hysterical mob. If it weren't for the real ones, I would have jumped ship. But we were discovering, bit by bit, more bits of the puzzle. The troll who tried to put me in a muzzle wanted to save me the trouble of paying my taxes, and one of its hacks, its genius plans, was to offer its PayPal link for my donations.
Speaker 2:I know it sounds so absurd, but to me that's not even the worst of the dirt, for their deeds to proceed to try to fleece me got as gross and as disturbing as weaponizing their own kid to bait me.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I pray for that child.
Speaker 2:What's wilder still is, despite the funky behavior, I couldn't sense ill will and I was still feeding this troll, though noticing now it was taking its toll on my soul. I was on a roll even when I should have been resting. But the next phase would be all the more testing because that's when trolls would pretend to visit apartments, push that surprise army merchandise departments and bring to our awareness the presence of haters, trolls on X, manipulators, but, as I said, a variety of snaky faces. All stem from the same head and they said some shit I felt compelled to react to. Not only was BJ being sued and silenced by a restraining order slapped temporarily to prevent her from speaking the truth, the troll could provide proof too. Here it gets bizarre that a phrase I had been using so far to describe the network of support for the case had taken its place decorated to look like a disgrace in a statement of court declarations where some dodo had spent energy covering tracks and making mountain from molehill, manifesting that that surprise army was some kind of military affair.
Speaker 6:This is kind of weirder than it appears from the outside.
Speaker 1:This is dark and deep this rabbit hole and I dove down that rabbit hole and the deeper and deeper I got, the more and more concerned that I got. I just want to know why.
Speaker 4:I want to know why people think that they have the right to treat people, others, false imprisonment, even family members. I do not understand why.
Speaker 5:To my knowledge, it's illegal to do that, to trap somebody.
Speaker 10:This is really a reflection of how society treats people with mental illness.
Speaker 1:I went down this particular rabbit hole because I saw a crazy headline from BJ about Bam Margera missing twins, vr technology, substance abuse and a dead homeless person from the soft white underbelly. It's unsettling to me. I was shocked All these lies that are absolutely documented.
Speaker 7:I stumbled into this rabbit hole, particularly through the work of BJ Investigates and that surprise witness.
Speaker 2:Investigating Britney Spears' conservatorship.
Speaker 10:I started to realize if they can do this to Britney Spears, if they can strip her of her basic fundamental human rights due to her perceived mental illness, what's stopping them from doing that to you or me?
Speaker 8:Hey everyone. I'm Mary from Canada. Three years ago I was looking for some mental health resources on YouTube, and then came Amanda, and then came the twins and every other single detail.
Speaker 12:The Amanda Raab situation pulls at my heartstrings the most because there's not a whole lot of answers and there's still monsters on the streets that are hiding behind entities.
Speaker 8:In my life. Justice is very important for me. I can't stand seeing people get what if I told?
Speaker 2:you that of the voices you just heard, 60% were part of a herd herded in to make noise? How's your discernment now to separate men from boys, trolls from their toys? The original troll had indeed reacted badly to news. I'd met a moderator I'd picked in person. She couldn't hide her green monster curse. And that situation worsened when I got wind a troll had personally visited the DMs of the entire community, I mean the ones who were genuinely there on behalf of humanity. She started to regularly get stroppy with me, spit out her grown woman dummy and demand I pacify her. And, like I said, god loves a trier.
Speaker 2:And as tensions grew higher, I tried my best to bring a bit of recuperation and rest in Discord in our panel discussions, in our private DMs, to some of the demons putting us to test. So let's start with practices and procedures to implement. Number one is our security and privacy. In the group it's been decided that all members will fill out the application form or the membership form and to that effect, we're also going to ask all members to provide social media links Great idea, thanks, guys. And or video or audio submissions so that we can hear your voice. And you know it's not going to be completely foolproof because, uh, anybody can be acting or whatever, anybody can be acting or whatever. But you know it's going to hopefully give us a little reassurance. It's really important that we handle this with sensitivity.
Speaker 2:And, yes, I unknowingly assigned role of membership verifier to yet another troll who, on the whole, I trusted. I removed those who wouldn't provide social media links, as busted trusted. My eyes to see what was presented in front of me, thought if I'd seen in their faces, looked into eyes, that was enough, but their dumb disguise didn't even come to mind. I got on with the daily grind, finding myself burning out, sharing videos of all I'd learned about, barely aware of the chaos that would soon make the trolls shout blue bloody murder like you've never heard a troll before. Not something we, sadly, can ignore. But thanks for the well-meaning advice. You look foolish when you're following catfish rolling a triple six, oblivious to their tricks. So take this and learn. My whole dream was about to burn.
Speaker 1:Satisfy your appetite for destruction.
